Discussion of 1.22 "Devil's Trap" - Aired 5/4/06 (The WB-US)

[prydain]

From the WB (http://www.thewb.com) website:

On a mission to save their father (Jeffrey Dean Morgan) from Meg (guest star Nicki Aycox), Sam (Jared Padalecki) and Dean (Jensen Ackles) seek help from an old family friend, Bobby (guest star Jim Beaver). When Meg shows up on Bobby's doorstep, the brothers lure her into a trap and exorcise the demon from her body after learning where John is being held prisoner. While trying to rescue John, the demon shows up and a full battle ensues between the Winchesters and the demon they have been searching for all their lives.

The episode was written by Eric Kripke directed by Kim Manners.

[teentitan]

Has anyone heard a rumour if the merged networks is going to pick the show up for next year?
A new network would be nuts not to launch with this show in the lineup!
I was so pissed how the season ended that I forgot about the car until my wife reminded me...then I was really pissed! lol Man I loved that car.
About the season ender shows I liked both. Good writing and I love the plot twist about the guys killing the demons son and daughter. Wonder if there's a mother in the mix?

[goldenboy]

Yes, shame about the Impala. That was a sweet ride. I've heard it's likely the show will be picked up, but not officially confirmed.

As far as the demon spawn...there's been speculation that the burning-ceiling-women were possibly pregnant...not sure if that relates or not.

I thought it was a fairly good ep with a really good shocking cliffhanger.

[historylover]

It's not officially confirmed yet, but the CW would be crazy not to renew it. It does pretty well with the all-powerful 18-34 demographic for not being on one of the major networks.

And I thought this episode was amazing. I literally screamed when the semi crashed into the Impala. I've never screamed at a season finale before. The only other season finale I've ever been that emotionally invested in was season 1 of "The West Wing."

Man. Second season can't come fast enough. Luckly, we got the DVDs to look forward to.

Kat

[Wesley]

Its so sad. I loved that car.

[prydain]

They should get a 2006 Mustang GT next year. :D

[Wesley]

I have to disagree. Keep with the classics. They are so much nicer.

[prydain]

Heck no they aren't. A 2006 Mustang could dominate a "classic" Mustang.

[teentitan]

Mustang is the wrong car! Zero trunk space for the weapons, ass end is too light for traction and the interior is too small to allow them comfort on long hauls. Plus even the new mustang would give the wrong feel.
The car they need is a mid 70's GTO. Black with metalic flecs and it's time for Dean to upgrade the soundsystem to CD.

[prydain]

Hmm well I know, I wouldn't expect them to get that type of car. I mainly just want one for myself. lol

[Angels baby101]

Hmm i must have missed the part about the car... dude that was a nice car grrr omg i wish i didn't read about that cuz thats a shame.. i think i liked the car more then the characters lol... I thought it was a pretty good ending with the dad being possesed by the demon and all hopefully the new network pics it up and all cuz i'd love to see a second season..

[prydain]

So I'm expressing my ignorance about cars here but this Impala of theirs is just an old version of the NEW Impalas? My grandparents have one, and it doesn't even look like they're in the same car family. I mean, personally I think most Mustangs share a somewhat similar look. Or at least, I can usually look at any year Mustang and say "that's a Mustang". But the new Impalas are pretty small and don't have any similarities. But anyway.

OK well I actually just now actually watched the episode...

..and holy shit that was awesome. Although I still think the show has lost something that it aspired for in the pilot, what's its turned into is good enough, I suppose. And this episode was as good as one could hope for. It totally made up for that crappy vampire episode. (I had high hopes for that one but it was a major disappointment.)

It was a nice and violent episode. The exorcism was cool. I'm glad Meg is gone, although I sort of felt sorry for her. The demonic apartments was pretty awesome too, although I personally would've thought it would have been excellent had every person in the place been possessed and they all went after the boys.

I still want to know what the demon's plans are for Sam.

But does anyone think that the demon is far less threatening than what the show originally led us to believe? It does not seem scary at all or as even as evil as it should come across. And the idea of it having a family that it loves was extremely silly and absurd. Evil cannot love. That's my opinion anyway. True evil, that is.

[historylover]

Just to toss something out. prydain, I'm piggybacking on what you said about the demon having a family it loves, who said it loves its family? I may need to watch it again, but I don't remember remember the demon saying it loved its family. Just that DemonMeg was his daughter and DemonGuy was his son. And Dean killed them both.

It's very possible that the demon had no feelings for those two in any way except it's something to attack the Winchesters, and particularly Dean, about. After all, those two are just lowly minions in his army.

It's also used as a parallel. The demon killed part of Dean's family; Dean killed part of the demon's family.

I agree with you: evil cannot love. So, I don't think the demon loved Meg or Guy.

Kat

[prydain]

Well it acted pretty upset about it, lol.

[teentitan]

Gotta remember guys love has many definitions.

[historylover]

Gotta remember guys love has many definitions.

I agree with that!

Kat

[prydain]

I don't think any definition of real "love" could apply to a demon though.

[teentitan]

I don't think any definition of real "love" could apply to a demon though.

By your definition ok. BUT look at the group who is defining real love and you will get a different definition.
So in a demon's definition pure evil that procreates evil might be the definition of real love to them.

[historylover]

I got a question for you guys.

Many people on tv.com think that the car crash was a vision of Sam's. What do you guys think?

I, personally, don't like that idea. I think the crash really happened. Plus, I'm scared that if Supernatural goes that way, it will jump the shark. It'll go the way of "Bobby in the Shower" episode of Dallas. I'm old enough to remember Dallas.

But, if Kripke and co. go that way, and they provide a kick-a$$ explanation for it, I might consider it to be a logical progression. I might accept that explanation.

What do you guys think?

Kat

[teentitan]

Nope don't buy it! If Sam is dreaming it then why would they show the truck driver posessed?
The writers of this show aren't that bad that they would use the Dallas lost year idea.

[historylover]

I don't like it either. I promised to keep an open mind. And if they really dazzle me with the explanation.

But, I think the crash isn't a vision. Besides, where would they begin the vision? From when they're rescuing John? In the cabin? Where?

Although, I think I would hate a "Three Months Later" beginning more...

I really hate the Dallas lost year.

Kat

[prydain]

Hmm well this is slightly on a tangent but I'm glad I'm not old enough to have watched Dallas since it sounds like it had a terrible finale, although it doesn't sound like a promising show to begin with - I'd never watch it.

But anyhoo, no I don't think it was a dream.

[Black Eye Guy]

Only got around to watching this now, I've had it for ages but hadn't watched it until just now.

It was a pretty good finale, I actually don't like that they killed Meg, I liked her character, although I may be alone there!!

I'm a little confused about what the demon wants with Sam? Like it's killing, or trying to, all these babies that have special abilities, Sam, the kid that had a similar experience and the baby I'm presuming can read minds. Yet it didn't just kill Sam, was it even going to? It seemed to want to keep him alive!

What do you think is up with the babies, I personally think it's some kind of Army of good thing, and the demon is trying to wipe it out?

[prydain]

I have no idea what's going on with the whole mass of psychic babies thing, but while I find it intriguing, I'm a little worried. Because down the line this will become the focus of the show. If this show gets an official last season I bet the last half will focus on this storyline and there will be a serious decrease in the monster-of-the-week episodes. I mean, usually I like ongoing storylines but for some reason the standalone episodes of this show work the best.

Anyway...I thought it was somewhat disappointing for a finale. I think I've mentioned this earlier in this post but that was months ago and I don't want to reread...I really think they should have done more with the possessed people in the apartment complex, it could've been a longer and better scene.

I didn't like Meg at first but she sort of grew on me. I don't really miss her enough to complain though. I did feel sorry for her...when the move her from the chair and you can hear her smashed bones...ugh that was nasty.

[Black Eye Guy]

Yeah the bit where they move her and you can hear the bones cracking was very well done.

It definitely wasn't the best season finale I've ever seen, but yeah I was expecting it to turn out that everyone in the building was possessed not just two people!

I also wouldn't mind them focusing on the baby thing when their finishing up, hopefully far into the future, but you are right the standalone thing works very well for this show. The only thing I have a problem with is the female characters, I don't really like how they keep going to these towns and seem to meet the perfect women, yet they are not there for more then one episode, I think they need a regular female character.

[Angel's vision]

I think that after re-watching it last night, the eppy where Sam meets a kid with similar abilties, that it is a bit like the W&H situation in Angel the demon is the one thing that these kids can destroy so it kills their mums because they get in the way, it wants to isolate all that they love so it can screw wiht their minds and make em helpless either use em to advance it's evil or
stop em, i'm going with it usign them for it's purposes...it's planning somehting big i reckon....just a thought.

[honeyrose]

this by far is my fave episode....esp the john/demon bit!!