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teentitan
05-17-2006, 09:45 PM
No I didn't think Charlie is kinda evil. He is just confused.
So Walter told Michael "they are not what they say they are". Ok intrigued.
Sawyers real name is James Ford. OK real intriguing.
There was a case with vacinnes in the pallet of food and Charlie gave it to Claire. Not so intriguing until I remembered that the previous tenant of the hatch was shown giving himself a vacinne shot. Ok totally intrigued
And where in the hell did a sail boat come from right after we find out Michael wants a boat for him and Walt after he delivers the 4. OK intrigued with an explative not tolerated on this board!
Next weeks season finale is going to be a humdinger!!!!

prydain
05-17-2006, 09:55 PM
Hell yeah it will be. I can't wait! :)

goldenboy
05-18-2006, 08:13 AM
Gotta give props to Sayid for figuring out Michael. You'd think a master con like Sawyer would have figured out what's what as well. I dunno...Sawyer himself gets duped in ridiculous ways sometimes...

N4H
05-18-2006, 11:25 AM
And they promised to answer all the questions next week. What do you want to bet there's going to be some angry talk on the internet this summer, if they're BSing again.

goldenboy
05-18-2006, 11:32 AM
I think the worst bait and switch promos for shows have been on NBC...ER in particular. ABC's bad, FOX is bad...ah hell, they're all that way, lol.

Black Eye Guy
05-19-2006, 12:36 PM
No I didn't think Charlie is kinda evil. He is just confused.
So Walter told Michael "they are not what they say they are". Ok intrigued.
Sawyers real name is James Ford. OK real intriguing.
There was a case with vacinnes in the pallet of food and Charlie gave it to Claire. Not so intriguing until I remembered that the previous tenant of the hatch was shown giving himself a vacinne shot. Ok totally intrigued
And where in the hell did a sail boat come from right after we find out Michael wants a boat for him and Walt after he delivers the 4. OK intrigued with an explative not tolerated on this board!
Next weeks season finale is going to be a humdinger!!!!

I know!! Whats interesting is that there was enough vaccine for 2 people, which could mean that the experiment they were conducting, using 2 people to push the button, was still supposed to be going on?

teentitan
05-19-2006, 01:06 PM
Maybe? But I got to believe that whoever is running the experiment knows it's compromised because the Pearl room has not sent a report in a looonngg time.
Do you think the vaccine might have something to do with the magnetic theory? They teased us this week again when Eko's cross moved toward the wall. And as I was typing this it just hit me!!! The magnet is at it's strongest as the clock nears zero!
When Jack showed Sayid he was within inches of the wall. Eko was standing in the middle of the hall.
This magnet theme is really starting to get on my nerves! lol

prydain
05-24-2006, 08:11 PM
Who the flip is the guy in the limo talking to Desmond? So familiar but I can't remember exactly. UGH.

HOLY FRICK! That was an amazing finale.

Let's see if I can remember all the stuff that I found cool. I doubt I will, I'll need to rewatch it, lol.

So the end...huh. The island has been found. What does that mean for season three? Can you guys imagine how different the show's gonna be? The show just took a huge leap forward. And Michael and Walt are presumably gunna get back to the "real world" now. Good riddance, Michael's been a huge annoyance to me. I was hoping he'd die, seeing as how he killed Hurley's would-be luva.

For some reason I just loved that huge-ass bird in the jungle. The last time we saw it was in the season ONE finale. Is it gonna be a once-a-season thing? We get to see the talking bird every year? lol

So is Henry Gale really the leader of The Others?

Some nice Desmond and Locke moments. I thought it was cool what happened when the button's not pushed. You guys should've seen my face when the sky turned bright because of the effin' button. I was like WHOA. That was cool. I hope we find out pretty soon what it meant.

As for Desmond crashing the plane...I don't buy that it was simply an accident. It had to have been planned by someone. And how did they survive? Questions, questions.

But what I'm most interested in, is how the writers will tie together the Hanso Foundation, The Others, the science-fiction stuff, along with the destiny and religious stuff. I really hope the show explores more of that next year.

And if I was bored at all with Lost recently, this episode fixed that. It completely restored my Lost addiction and I'll be starving for more Lost all summer. Don't expect to see me on forums discussing every line of dialogue and every scene looking for clues though, lol.

Lost, you. Are. Awesome.

N4H
05-25-2006, 01:25 AM
The guy in the limo is Charles Widmore. There's some stuff on Charles Widmore here:

http://lostpedia.com/wiki/Widmore

It's worth clicking on the Bad Twins link if you go there also. That is stuff I personally did not know.

Wow. What a finale. Best finale this season I thought. My brain is still buzzing.

prydain
05-25-2006, 06:51 AM
At TV.com a bunch of users are saying Lost jumped the shark last night, and it answered "nothing". Are they insane? This was the best finale I've seen yet. And we got lots of big questions answered:

- What the number sequence does.
- Why the plane crashed.
- What will happen if numbers aren't pushed.
- A little more info about the Others.

Okay, so maybe A LOT is wrong, but still, the stuff I was wondering about the most was answered.

What I don't understand is why people can't be patient. Lost DOES give answers. It slowly gives you the information. I'm in no hurry to know everything, if we knew everything the show would be over! And the show is going to stay on for quite a while, ABC's not gonna let it go until season five or six at least. I'd rather the show still be going good creatively, with stuff to answer, rather than them giving everything sooner and then perhaps suffering a bigger fan backlash than Alias received when ABC made the writers tweak it.

I don't think the fans of Lost really want everything answered. They just THINK they do. Half the fun of this show is to try and figure it out, IMO.

goldenboy
05-25-2006, 08:19 AM
You tech heads can help me out. What I don't completely get is the nature of the electro-magnetism stuff. I thought the ex "spook" (a CIA connection to Dharma?) was explaining to Desmond that the island was something like a natural geo-magnetic anomaly or something?

Were they trying to harness a natural phenomenon? That's what powers everything on the island, even the "psychic" stuff, apparitions? So...harnesing this energy is like trying to bottle a geyser?

Which Dickens novel was it that Desmond was saving? They've never made such a big deal about a particular novel and I can't remember the title, lol.

Was Libby (Elizabeth) an innocent or was she part of a con to get Desmond to the island? You'd think it was just more serendipity, since she's a corpse now...can't wait to see why she was in the nuthouse...

N4H
05-25-2006, 09:36 AM
The Dickens story was Our Mutual Friend.

http://mchip00.nyu.edu/lit-med/lit-med-db/webdocs/webdescrips/dickens1529-des-.html

At that Lostpedia link the guy had a theory Libby was a Widmore. I didn't get why though.

goldenboy
05-25-2006, 09:43 AM
I get it. Penelope did say "there's always hope, as long as you have a friend"...something like that. Wonder how else it might relate.

N4H
05-25-2006, 09:49 AM
A lot of novels are referenced in Lost. I wonder how relevant they are.

The one which does appear to have some kind of relevance though is the one talked about at this link.

Bad Twin (http://lostpedia.com/wiki/Bad_Twin)

I thought Penelope said someone who loves you, not a friend. I actually taped this one. I'll have to watch again.

I don't know a lot about magnetism, but there's one thing I'm almost positive about. It will wipe out a computer hard drive. So they won't be pushing the button any more. The techies at the Lost sites won't let them get away with that one.

Are Locke and Mr. Eko dead, do you think?

goldenboy
05-25-2006, 10:15 AM
Yeah, I don't know. Hope not. Isn't the point of a failsafe that it's a safe way to fail? lol. But everything was breaking down and going bonkers, so...

I tend to zone out when shows get into mechanical/technical stuff. Def watching that one again.

N4H
05-25-2006, 10:43 AM
I just thought of something. You were talking about the Libby-Elizabeth thing.

I remember when I was watching that bit where the woman was giving the boat to Desmond, I was thinking "Gee, that woman looks familiar". Are you saying that woman was Libby? I really have to watch this one again. I'm sure I missed a lot of important stuff.

goldenboy
05-25-2006, 11:11 AM
Yup, that was in fact Libby. Or a twin. Or a clone, lol.

Mr. Widmore bribes Desmond to stay away from Penelope and Desmond ends up travelling to America. He meets a normal Libby with a more conservative haircut and she offers him her boat so that he can enter a race around the world sponsored by Charles Widmore himself.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Episodes_of_Lost_%28season_2%29#Live_Together.2C_D ie_Alone

It was interesting to see Sayid praying on the sailboat. I don't recall the show ever suggesting that he was an observant Muslim.

prydain
05-25-2006, 03:29 PM
I just realized that I was right, several months ago I said that the plane crashed cuz of those electromagnets and whoo, I was right. :D

But anyhooz.

This guy who came to valet today at work was talking about Lost, and since I was the only valet guy who watched it he was talking to me about it, and Eko was brought up. The guy said Eko died but I couldn't remember them even showing him again. Is he gone? Or do we not know yet?

goldenboy
05-25-2006, 03:31 PM
I can't remember. Did Charlie drag him out of the Hatch?

prydain
05-25-2006, 03:33 PM
Don't remember. I REALLY wish my ep would finish d/ling I need to watch it again.

goldenboy
05-25-2006, 03:38 PM
Here's all that Wiki says:

Charlie, his hearing dimmed by the explosion, is seen staggering around trying to help Eko. However, they are seperated. Eko finds Locke, and a disturbed Locke tells him that "I was wrong."

You guys, what do you suppose was up with that four-toed giant foot statue? lol Maybe an ancient race of mutant Polynesians once lived there...maybe the geo-magnetic pulses caused major genetic damage...heh...

prydain
05-25-2006, 04:03 PM
What the crap I never saw a statue. What the hell was I doing last night? lol

I really DO have to rewatch this.

And why is the Hurley-bird the ONLY bird we've ever seen on the island? So weird...

goldenboy
05-25-2006, 04:05 PM
Yeah, Sayid even mentions the statue...when he's sailing with Jin and Sun. Check it out!

prydain
05-25-2006, 07:50 PM
When was the Hanso Foundation introduced? I keep mixing it up with Dharma.

goldenboy
05-26-2006, 07:28 AM
Apparently, Hanso was mentioned along with Dharma, when they first watched the orientation film.

Orientation
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orientation_%28Lost%29


In the finale, the prison guard mentioned that Desmond's full name was Desmond David Hume. It's fun to check out more about these philosophers and see how they might relate:

David Hume (April 26, 1711 – August 25, 1776)[1] was a Scottish philosopher, economist, and historian who is one of the most important figures of Western philosophy and of the Scottish Enlightenment.

Hume was heavily influenced by empiricists John Locke and George Berkeley, along with various Francophone writers such as Pierre Bayle, and various figures on the Anglophone intellectual landscape such as Isaac Newton, Samuel Clarke, Francis Hutcheson, and Joseph Butler.

Ideas and impressions
Hume believes that all human knowledge comes to us through our senses. Our perceptions, as he called them, can be divided into two categories: ideas and impressions. He defines these terms thus in his An Enquiry Concerning Human Understanding: "By the term impression, then, I mean all our more lively perceptions, when we hear, or see, or feel, or love, or hate, or desire, or will. And impressions are distinguished from ideas, which are the less lively perceptions, of which we are conscious, when we reflect on any of those sensations or movements above mentioned." He further specifies ideas, saying, "It seems a proposition, which will not admit of much dispute, that all our ideas are nothing but copies of our impressions, or, in other words, that it is impossible for us to think of anything, which we have not antecedently felt, either by our external or internal senses." This forms an important aspect of Hume's skepticism, for he says that we cannot be certain a thing, such as God, a soul, or a self, exists unless we can point out the impression from which the idea of the thing is derived.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Hume

teentitan
05-26-2006, 10:58 PM
WOW what a season finale!
There was a lot of questions answered but now there's a whole bunch more!
There is so much to explore but the biggest one is that IMO Locke, Eko and Hume are still alive. There was no explosion when Hume turned the key I think that when Hume turned the key he changed the polarity of the electromagnetic field on the island. Why you may ask? Well two points if there was an explosion in the hatch Charlie would have been buried in the rubble and I have heard a lot of explosions and none of them had a high sonic pitch to it. But what clinched it for me was the lid to the hatch (with quarentine on it) when it landed on the beach, it wasn't burnt or damaged anymore then it was so it had to have been repelled like when magnets of the same polarity are pushed towards each other. Plus the two guys in the tent in the Arctic (were they speaking Spanish?) measured an electromagnetic anomally.
Plus they showed the ex-CIA guy drawing the map on the blast door (does everyone really think he is dead?) sorta a waste to let that go from the show. It could be Eko, Locke's and Hume's new 'faith'.
And what in the hell did Henry Gale mean when he said " we got more then we thought we'd get when Walt joined us" to Michael? I think Michael and Walt are off the show because Walt has this problem in real life...he's growing up and going thru puberty. And it was emphasized that they were only on the island for 65 odd days.
What do you guys think?

goldenboy
05-27-2006, 10:10 AM
That's a good theory Titan. Was trying to figure out why a failsafe mechanism would actually result in destruction. Seems like if anyone's dead, it's just cos of flying metal debris in the Hatch or something...

Were those guys in the Arctic or the Antarctic?

What could they have gotten from Walt? Something from inside him? Genetics related? paranormal-related info? Huh.

teentitan
05-27-2006, 10:42 AM
Antarctic sorry about that. If the plane crashed 22 Sept and you tak on the 65 days that would make it around the end of November and I know for a fact that the Arctic is pitch black 24/7 at that time of year.
I think it was paranormal from Walt because in the first season that is what he sorta displayed with the birds and polar bear.
I don't remember the bird from the first season. When did it show up?
I think Sayid praying had to do with the 4 toed statue. His reaction when seeing it was odd to me because all he commented on was the toes.
Why would the Others want Hurley only to let him go? It doesn't make sense to me because all they had to do was got to the beach and tell them they have the 4 and they are to stay away from their side of the island.
Plus I do believe we met the "man in charge". The guy in the car. Like his daughter said when you have money you can find out anything. So I think the old man knows Sawyers real name because he has the money.

goldenboy
05-27-2006, 11:23 AM
Yeah, I suppose that Widmore guy is some sort of major player in the project, at the very least. A partner, founding member, investor, creator...

As far as why Hurley got to leave, dunno. Hurley's the closest thing to a pacifist among the four, seems like. Not sure. So, from the get-go, the Others just wanted him present as a witness for these events?

I guess there's less personal risk this way, than for an Other to approach the beach in person...they have had some bad luck that way.

prydain
05-27-2006, 11:26 AM
Does anyone happen to remember if the statue was in the first or second hour?

And btw, we got more mysterious whispering...is it The Others playing mindgames, or something supernatural? Hmmm.

goldenboy
05-27-2006, 11:55 AM
I believe the statue was pretty early on, 1st hour. Shortly after they start the sailboat trip.

Black Eye Guy
05-27-2006, 04:18 PM
Yeah it's exactly 30 mins into the first episode!!

That finale was brilliant, I really don't think Lock and Eko are dead, Although it wouldn't surprise me.

The guy in the car was also Caleb from The O.C. maybe thats were you recognise him from?

The ending was excellent, But why where they in the Antarctic, like why couldn't they do that job from anywhere??

prydain
05-27-2006, 04:22 PM
Yeah the episode finally d/led and I just finished watching it like ten minute ago. lol

And yes, The O.C. is where I saw that guy, I just realized it as I was watching it again. My first thoughts were that he was in Lost earlier in the season. haha

I wonder if Desmond is dead.

You guys should listen to the latest ABC "Lost" podcast, the producers discuss the finale and clarify some things:

http://abc.go.com/primetime/lost/podcasts/108849.html

N4H
05-27-2006, 05:28 PM
But why where they in the Antarctic, like why couldn't they do that job from anywhere??

I'm wondering if they're somewhere around here.

Magnetic South Pole (http://deeptow.whoi.edu/southpole.html)

goldenboy
05-27-2006, 05:37 PM
Do you suppose this is all gonna relate to a "pole shift"? That comes up a bit in sci-fi...and..science specials, Art Bell, lol.

A pole shift theory is a hypothesis based on geologic evidence that the physical north and south poles of Earth have not always been at their present-day locations; in other words, the axis of rotation had been "shifted". Pole shift theory is almost always discussed in the context of Earth, but other solar system bodies may have experienced axial reorientation during their existences.

One early popular proponent of a pole shift theory was Charles Hapgood in his books The Earth's Shifting Crust (1958) (which includes a foreword by Albert Einstein) and Path of the Pole (1970). Hapgood speculated that the ice mass at one or both poles over-accumulates which destabilizes the earth's rotational balance, causing slippage of all or much of earth's outer crust around the earth's core, which retains its axial orientation.

This happens either slowly (conservative version) or quickly (radical version). The results of the shift occurring every 12,000 to 20,000 years or so results in dramatic climate changes for most of the earth's surface as areas that were formally equatorial become temperate, and areas that were temperate become either more equatorial or more arctic.

These theories are currently not accepted by the scientific community, but debate is ongoing.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pole_shift

N4H
05-27-2006, 06:55 PM
You know what GB? That might be one of the best theories I've heard so far.

It might be possible to tie up all the mysteries we've seen with that one. For example people turning up from beyond the grave, or in multiple locations could be explained away by some kind of space-time continuum shift caused by a magnetic shift. Hanso and the Others could be part of a preparation for a world apocalypse.

goldenboy
05-27-2006, 07:20 PM
Yeah, and what are polar bears doing in the tropics? heh. (No idea if that relates in any way. Maybe it's foreshadowing, symbolism.)

I can remember seeing this Nova special, saying we're overdue for a shift...that the transition will slowly make the Earth's surface much more vulnerable to radiation. Was really interesting...

Like the plot of a sci-fi B movie, something weird is happening deep underground where the constant spin of Earth's liquid metallic core generates an invisible magnetic force field that shields our planet from harmful radiation in space. Gradually, the field is growing weaker. Could we be heading for a demagnetized doomsday that will leave us defenseless against the lethal effects of solar wind and cosmic rays? "Magnetic Storm" looks into our potentially unsettling magnetic future...

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/magnetic/about.html

prydain
05-27-2006, 07:25 PM
I read something...maybe it was in this thread? I dunno, don't feel like looking, something about animal agression experiments and all sorts of other stuff...made it sound like the Hanso Foundation brought in the polar bears.

Black Eye Guy
05-27-2006, 07:44 PM
Yeah the polar bears have been explained, on the blast door map, in the bottom right hand corner there is a small passage, which shays that the polar bears were brought to the island and under went genetic manipulation so they could survive in tropic like conditions.

I just found out that the guy that was in the hatch before Desmond was the same guy that was in Syieds(Sp?) flashback, He was the one that ordered him to torture the other guy!!! I didn't realise this!! I love this program!

prydain
05-27-2006, 07:50 PM
On my first viewing I thought the guy who was in the hatch with Desmond was the bearded guy that they thought was the leader of The Others...but when I rewatched it today I realized the guy from The Others is fatter and older lol.

N4H
05-27-2006, 08:22 PM
Yeah, and what are polar bears doing in the tropics? heh.

Again Space-time continuum. Matter follows energy. (Te he. I just read that at an internet site on polar shift).

You remember when they found those mastadons in the ice, in Russia, or some place, and the big mystery was there was still green vegetation in their stomachs. In order for that to be, whatever cataclysm froze the mastadons had to happen almost instantaeously.

So the theory I just read says the space-time continuum changed as a result of polar shift in such a way the mastadon was in one place in one instant and in a totally different, and totally frozen place in the next.

Now if you were Hanso and were convinced that sort of thing might happen again, you might want to be prepared for an artic event in a region which is at the moment tropical, by studying an animal from a polar region in a tropical environment.

Here's another thing I'm wondering about now. Could that bird have been prehistoric? It looked a bit like one of those after the dinosaurs birds. If we're dealing with future space-time shifts could shifts be happening already?

Oh here's something else. Edgar Cayce, the sleeping prophet, was big on Polar shifts. :world: :buffy_gil Those prophets from Lost are reminiscent of Cayce.

The only thing I can't slip into a polar shift theory is Smokey the island monster.

And hey, Goldenboy, you gave me this this theory. :magic:
What? Now that you've talked me into it, you don't like it anymore. :D ;) j/k

prydain
05-27-2006, 08:36 PM
From what the producers said in their podcast, the smokey thing is probably NOT the monster.

teentitan
05-27-2006, 11:06 PM
Magnetic fields of the earth are at their strongest in the South Pole and North Pole so seeing as how the flight originiated from Australia one can assume that the magnetic change in polarity would be at it's strongest in the South pole so it would be the best place to be to read the strength of the change. Does anyone know if those guys were Spanish?
FYI the best place to measure earthquakes is in the North pole. The seismologist in Alert on Ellesmere Island (google it) explained to me that vibrations in the earth's mantle travel up. There is a vault with all this equipment that measures the vibrations and using distance and strength of vibration she verified magnitude's (strenght) of earthquakes. The engineers were blasting chunks of rock to be crushed down for gravel for the roads on the station and they forgot to tell her to turn her equipment off. It took her about 2 weeks to re-calibrate all her equipment. She was all of 4' 6" and they all stayed clear of her, man she not only cussed them out she took a poke at one.

prydain
05-28-2006, 12:04 AM
Those guys were Portugese to be exact. :D

teentitan
05-28-2006, 11:43 AM
The board is blocking me from giving Karma to you Pry17 so thank you.

Someone mentioned it earlier about Sayid praying and I was wondering is there anything in Muslim lore about a 4 toed prophet? I checked but couldn't find anything. I just find it odd that all of a sudden Sayid is praying after seeing the foot and he commented on the 4 toes. Also the show has more or less portrayed Sayid as a person who has lost his religious faith.

goldenboy
05-28-2006, 12:09 PM
And hey, Goldenboy, you gave me this this theory. :magic:
What? Now that you've talked me into it, you don't like it anymore. :D ;) j/k

Nah, it's all sounding good to me N4H, I like.

And I thought Cayce was predicting something totally radical like the earth itself would flop over on its axis and because of inertia, the crust would go all crazy and there'd be giant tidal waves, mountain range waves, lol.

Black Eye Guy
05-28-2006, 12:34 PM
The board is blocking me from giving Karma to you Pry17 so thank you.

Someone mentioned it earlier about Sayid praying and I was wondering is there anything in Muslim lore about a 4 toed prophet? I checked but couldn't find anything. I just find it odd that all of a sudden Sayid is praying after seeing the foot and he commented on the 4 toes. Also the show has more or less portrayed Sayid as a person who has lost his religious faith.

I don't think there is, Sayid was praying before he saw the statue. But there is a few Egyptian gods that have four toes, But with the sandal it looks like one of the classical Roman or Greek statues.

goldenboy
05-28-2006, 12:37 PM
Lostpedia has tons of speculation on the foot. Just a few here:

* The foot bears a strong resemblance to the Foot of Colossal Statue in Via Pič di Marmo. While their is no shin on this statue and the toes are angled differently, the criss-cross of the sandals is almost exactly the same. In the picture of the real statue, the pinky toe is almost hidden in edge of the sandal. Perhaps on closer inspection the island's statue would reveal another toe.

* In Asian mythology, Korean dragons have four toes. There have been several other references to Korea in the show (the design of the Dharma logo, Paik Heavy Industries, etc)

* Several Asian and Egyptian deities have four toes, such as Bast, the Cat-Goddess.

* The statue could be part of one depicting Anubis which is one of the Hieroglyphs found on the countdown past zero.

* Could be a reference to the Castle of Otranto by Horace Walpole. In the book giant stone limbs suddenly appear from nowhere.

http://lostpedia.com/wiki/Statue

Black Eye Guy
05-28-2006, 12:41 PM
I love that lostpedia site, I could spend hours on there, I really like this:

The sandal the foot is wearing does look a very old style like Roman, or ancient Greek. It is possible that the island is Atlantis, which supposedly rose out of the sea thousands of years ago, and was the home of an entire, very advanced, civilization that was completely cut off from the outside world. This would explain the statue having 4 toes - the entire civilization evolved seperate from the rest of the world. Atlantis sunk back into the sea, and may now be rising again. This would require the island to be part of some kind of underwater volcano, which would explain all the black rocks everywhere. This would also explain why the Black Rock (the ship) is so far inland - it may be that 200 years ago the island was almost completely underwater, and the ship could have run aground then, and been raised up with the island since. However, the statue doesn't really look like its been underwater for thousands of years.
http://lostpedia.com/wiki/Statue

prydain
05-28-2006, 01:12 PM
Atlantis theory is interesting but I refuse to believe that's the explanation...I don't think Lost will be THAT far-fetched.

Black Eye Guy
05-28-2006, 01:39 PM
No I don't either, I just thought it was interesting, I also refuse to believe any of this clone crap, Lost has never been really big into the sci-fi, It's more of a drama that flirts with Sci-fi, that's why it is doing so well, it appeals to both groups of people, the ones that watch Drama and the ones that watch Sci-fi.

teentitan
05-28-2006, 02:16 PM
Sorry BEG just checked the tape and Sayid started praying after they saw the 4-toed foot. He was praying just before they saw the Stonehenge like rocks Michael said was where the Others camp was.
So I got to think that the foot has something to do with Sayid praying something that was not shown before in the show.

N4H
05-28-2006, 02:41 PM
On the Portugese thing...does the podcast specify those 2 guys are from Portugal? They speak Portugese in Brazil. It would be interesting because there actually is a Brazilian Antarctic Program.

In 1982 the Brazilian government launched their first Antarctic expedition, and a year later built their first base (named Comandante Ferraz, for a deceased naval officer active in Antarctica), which has been active year-round since then...

Brazilian Antarctica (Antártica Brasileira) is the name of the Brazilian informal claim, a zone of Interest designated in 1986, covering the Antarctic from 28°W to 53°W; it overlaps Argentine and British claims.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brazil_Antarctic_Geopolitics

prydain
05-28-2006, 05:45 PM
They just say they're Portugese. Not Brazilians speaking Portugese, but who knows.

Bored of the Dead
05-28-2006, 09:18 PM
Desmond is sailing around the world in attempt to win the respect of, and return to, his true love Penelope--but he ends up stranded on an island. In "The Odyssey," Odysseus was trying to return to his wife Penelope from the Trojan War, but got stranded on several occasions en route. Also, Penelope had many suitors while Odysseus was gone, and Penelope becomes engaged while Desmond is in prison.

This allusion fits in pretty well in an episode which reveals the remains of a huge, Greek-looking statue on the island.

this is interesting

N4H
05-28-2006, 09:49 PM
And I thought Cayce was predicting something totally radical like the earth itself would flop over on its axis and because of inertia, the crust would go all crazy and there'd be giant tidal waves, mountain range waves, lol.

I'm not an expert, but from what I've been reading, I think you just described Polar Shift.

As I understand it there are 2 possible causal factors - one external, the other internal. An external cause of polar shift would be something like a meteor passing too close to the earth. An Internal cause would be something like the polar ice cap melting re-arranging the earth's crust.

Understand though, you're hearing pseudo-science from someone who makes no claim to actually understanding it here.

I was looking at a map of what the world would look like after polar shift, and where I live would be the north pole. That wouldn't be a bad way to go actually - to be instantaneously frozen like a mastadon. Then millenium into the future scientists would thaw me out of the ice, and find a Big Mac still in my stomach like the Mastadon and the grass. :D