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N4H
06-20-2006, 01:01 PM
There's a term coined by Buffy/Angel/Miracles writer/producer David Greenwalt - Phlebotnum (http://www.restlessbtvs.com/trivia/phlebotnum/). It means any magical or mystical force or event that arises in the process of inventing the Buffy mythology/ or advancing the plot.

As I understand it it's kind of like Deux Ex Machina (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deus_ex_machina), but isn't confined to a prop, or the ultimate solution of the main problem presented by the story. I'm thinking however that it can be either.

Hearing about it has got me to thinking. Is this a way of noticing where the line get's blurry between Science Fiction, and Fantasy.

Take Doctor Who for instance. Most of the early Whos you seem to have what you might call classic science fiction. You have a series of problems and solutions, all of which are based in the cause and effect of science. The early doctors thought their way out of problems with scientifically based explanations.

I remember reading something concerning the Tom Baker run where they decided to stop using the sonic screwdriver, because it made things too easy when the doctor could just wave the SS at something, and solve the problem.

Satan's Pit was pretty much science fiction until the very end. The Tardis appears and there you have it - Phlebotnum. The magical thing that morphs into a solution to push the story forward without any scientific explanation as to exactly how.

Personally I don't like too much phlebotnum in my science fiction. It's why I couldn't connect with Christmas Invasion. The doctor seems to simply solve problems by saying it's time to solve them, as I remember things. It's like, "Oh, here's this new magic thing I can do".

So I'm wondering is the current run of Doctor Who more science fiction, or more fantasy.

Angel's vision
06-21-2006, 09:49 AM
They seem to have very simple solutions to the problems like anti plastic in season one the tardis just happend to be there in the satan pit and it happens to guide a rocket!
I was going to say they used both!

N4H
06-21-2006, 11:01 AM
I'm hoping I've got Greenwalt's term correct. I'm thinking he was talking about stuff in Buffy like they want to give Buffy a sister, so they invent a magical key which unlocks doors between dimensions, and can morph into any shape (TARDIS). Or they want to show the power of the central characters as a united force so they introduce a magic spell which unites the core strength of each character into one super-Buffy (Rose merging with the tardis to create a super-Rose).

Black Eye Guy
06-21-2006, 10:00 PM
Is this correct: The hellmouth as they jut blame a whole bunch of occurrences, like the invisibleness of Marci Ross just because of energy from the hellmouth??

And oh does Rose actually merge with the TARDIS to become a super Rose, That’s so cool, lol

MentPatient
06-29-2006, 07:00 PM
It was just for a while, to wipe out the Daleks in the new Doctor Who season one finale.

N4H
06-29-2006, 07:22 PM
BEG, on the Hellmouth thing, I have to be honest. I don't exactly know. I'm just bluffing my way through this like everyone else right now. (although personally I'd say yeah, that's right) With new words you have to kind of let them find their definite definition with time.

The point I'm really trying to make is this Doctor is different than previous Doctors in that he seems more comfortable treading in the realm of fantasy rather than conventional Science Fiction.