Discussion of 2.17 "Heart" - Aired 3/22/07 (CW-US)

[Velvet Sky]

Summary:

After investigating the death of a lawyer (guest star Nate Quinlan) who appeared to have been killed by a wild animal, Sam (Jared Padalecki) and Dean (Jensen Ackles) realize they are tracking a werewolf.

Sam is immediately attracted to the lawyer's secretary Madison (guest star Emmanuelle Vaugier) and when it seems as if Madison will be the werewolf's next victim, Sam offers to stay overnight to protect her. Dean heads out to hunt the animal and is stunned by what he finds.

Raelle Tucker wrote the episode directed by Charles Beeson.

Source (http://www.cwtv.com/shows/supernatural/episodes/217)


Haven't watched it yet, it's on a tape. But looking forward to it. *L* I always do. :)

[Vilandra]

I don't know about anyone else, but this episode felt like the longest episode ever lol

[prydain]

Yeah the episode felt like a two-hour movie, BUT I didn't find it boring or anything. Weird, huh? But in a way it was better, it felt like the writers were actually setting things up, not jumping into the action like they usually do. One reason I don't find the show remotely creepy is because most episodes don't do any set up, it just shows someone dying, you don't even care about them, etc.

I liked this episode, I think it was one of the best-produced episodes, even if it wasn't fantastic in general. Emmanuelle was smokin' hot, and a well written character. The sex scene was lame, very boring. Not as boring as the one in Route 666 though.

BTW, this episode got exactly the same ratings as last week, 3.52 million viewers. :) Which is a good sign.

[goldenboy]

It was different to see these werewolves...just add plastic fangs and creepy wolf contacts and...presto! Werewolf. No prosthetics, wolfy makeup. I actually think they're creepier the more human they look.

Anyways, it was alright. It may have been slowly paced, dunno...but the story actually felt kind of rushed, to me, lol. With Sam and Dean figuring out who the werewolf is, to convincing her, to Sam sleeping with her, to offing her, jeez. All wrapped up on 44 minutes of screentime or whatever.

[Vilandra]

Yeah, I guess I felt like at each segment there, it was time for the ep to be over lol

[teentitan]

Man what do you guys want?!?
I found this episode was more about content then the action, special effects and gruesome demons.
All season Sam has been trying to get Dean to see the 'human' side to what they do. Though it was quick how Sam and Maddison fell for each other the point was at the end. Sam may not have said it but he had to be thinking of his girlfriend that died last season, is this what's going to happen to me because I have evil in me and I have to kill her because she asked me.
Ask yourself this? Was the tear that ran down Dean's face because of what Sam was about to do or did he come to the realization that even though she was evil she was afterall human...or was it both?
I'm glad for the rating numbers, especially seeing as how the show goes up against Greys Anatomy.

[prydain]

Just a comment on the "evil" thing. Maddison may be a werewolf, but that in no way makes her evil. Just a danger to other people. If she has no control over her transformation and essentially becomes a creature who eats human hearts or whatever, it's not "evil". It's just an animal doing it's business.

Same as vampires. A vampire cannot be "evil" if it isn't human. If a vampire kills for blood to live, that's not WRONG. If you're not human, it's not evil to kill humans for food.

That's just something that's ALWAYS bothered me in stories, when things are referred to as evil for something as silly as just killing people for food. A bird killing a mouse for food isn't evil, so neither is some otherwordly creature killing people.

Unless, of course, you're talking about a demon (in the show) who kills and tortures for the sake of it, for actually the sake of doing evil. That would be a different story.

Sorry for the rant. :)

[Velvet Sky]

It did seem long, but in no way bad. I half expected the episode to end when the sex scene started to get that moving on ending bit where he'd have to say good bye. And then day turned to night and there was clearly a little more. I know at the end I was thinking about Sam and Jess and now Madison, and going 'poor Sammy'. :(

I agree about the less 'making up' they do on werewolves generally, the scarier they are. I think the one TV show or move I've seen where they really did up the wolves and they really were scarier looking was in Underworld, those were some nasty ass werewolfs. *L* And Scott Speedman still looked hot. *L* But, I liked that this was basically some contacts, teeth, and I noticed her fingers and finger nails got a little 'clawy' *L* Emmanuelle was a very hot wolf. *L* :)

[teentitan]

Just a comment on the "evil" thing. Maddison may be a werewolf, but that in no way makes her evil. Just a danger to other people. If she has no control over her transformation and essentially becomes a creature who eats human hearts or whatever, it's not "evil". It's just an animal doing it's business.

Same as vampires. A vampire cannot be "evil" if it isn't human. If a vampire kills for blood to live, that's not WRONG. If you're not human, it's not evil to kill humans for food.

That's just something that's ALWAYS bothered me in stories, when things are referred to as evil for something as silly as just killing people for food. A bird killing a mouse for food isn't evil, so neither is some otherwordly creature killing people.

Unless, of course, you're talking about a demon (in the show) who kills and tortures for the sake of it, for actually the sake of doing evil. That would be a different story.

Sorry for the rant. :)

You make an excellent point Pry and I agree with what you said but when I said 'evil' in my post I was quoting the show. That has always been the blurry line in all shows demons are evil, evil is a demon. The only time the blurry line becomes clear is when the show focus' on a demon being good like they used to do in Angel and Buffy.
I would have preferred in this epi if the writers had of used the word demon because they used the 'they blacked out in their sleep and didn't remember anything' excuse which would have made the viewer look at the person becoming a werewolf a demon instead of evil.