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prydain
12-25-2007, 06:07 PM
Someone pointed out a site to me with someone's theories on "Lost", and after reading a lot of it seemed to make sense to me. Not all, but quite a bit. I particularly like the explanation of Smokey, as I've always thought a huge black smoke cloud was silly.

"The QuaSiaDam© Theory" and more LOST stuff - theory english (http://www.quasiadam.com/theoryenglish.html)

If anyone reads it, share your thoughts. :)

teentitan
12-26-2007, 01:26 PM
Well I read it it all and I have come to the conclusion that LOST is a tv show that was meant to be a University Degree that would be comprised of religion, mathmatics, history, mythology and don't screw with the universe's master plan.
It helped give 'credible' answers to the many, many, many questions/ mysteries of LOST and was quite interesting.
But most importantly it has proved to me something that has been bugging me for 2/3 years now.
The intricate and complicated story of LOST has turned a lot of tv viewers off single themed drams tv shows because the viewer is afraid that they will have to commit to much time to a show that gives to few answers unless the viewer is willing to do the research. In other words where is the entertainment value if you have to have a university degree to get the answers? Or for that matter know what the thing you just saw is (like the Smoke is a dijinn)?
It is a complicated show that moves to slow. Like the guys said in episode 10 they found the hatch yet 13 episodes later they get into the hatch. If this was a daily soap opera 13 shows would be fine but for a weekly show way, way, way too long and that quite honestly pisses off some viewers who just want a simple show to entertain them.

goldenboy
12-26-2007, 02:24 PM
At first I was noticing all the spelling and grammar errors and thought this person was a fool. Must not be a native English speaker though.

All the speculation on the Arabian lore is interesting. Makes sense to an exent, but all this stuff being purely metaphysical, supernatural doesn't seem right. What's with the mechanical noises from Smokey?

There might be a djinn in the mix, or whatever supernatural thing the myth of the djinn is based on, in the Lostverse. But it's gotta be mixed in with technology, the psychic/scientific experiment stuff that seems to have been happening. I dunno.

prydain
12-26-2007, 06:02 PM
I'm not saying I believe the theory is correct, just that I believe a few of the explanations sound good.

And teentitan, I think you're overreacting a little. OK maybe a lot. Lost does not require a 'university degree' for anything, all it requires is that you pay attention. They WILL eventually gives answers to what's going on. We will EVENTUALLY find out what Smokey is.

One of the best parts of Lost is it's intricate nature. Answer one mystery, there are more under. It keeps you thinking, it's not just mindless entertainment, and the best thing about it is that you CAN devote lots of time to figuring things out but it's NOT required in the least...you can sit back and watch and get the answers in time.

And how does it move too slow? It's had a few slow periods but it's mostly about the characters in the first place. And I had NO problem with not finding out what the hatch was about until the second season. Personally I love the mystery element and if they introduced the hatch and we found out what was in it an episode later, that would be lame IMO.

Also it adds realism to the show, at least a little...the characters don't find things out right away, they're in the dark too. And in the show's timeframe, the hatch was opened two weeks after Locke and Boone discovered it.

Anyway, I'm sure now we'll get answers much more regularly since the writers know how many episodes they have to work with.

Edit:

BTW goldenboy I agree that there's science involved with the show but I think it's fairly obvious there's supernatural, too. I mean some things cannot be explained using only science fiction. Personally I think the monster is more supernatural. (ANd I also think there's more than one.) What scientific thing could explain black smoke that can transform, read people's minds and use images of dead people against them? And if the monster IS supernatural, the mechanical noises are probably just for show.

I think the island is supernatural in nature and I think there will be sci-fi elements that would be from DHARMA's interference (unless the island is Atlantis or something).

goldenboy
12-26-2007, 10:16 PM
Agreed, it seems like a supernatural/technological mix at this point.

One technological theory I'd read for the smoke was that it's a nano-cloud, or nano swarm or whatever. A bunch of flying nanobots that act togther like a hive mind, bee swarm kinda thing. But how you'd marry that kind of technology to psychic phenomena, not sure.

teentitan
12-26-2007, 11:25 PM
I'm not saying I believe the theory is correct, just that I believe a few of the explanations sound good.

And teentitan, I think you're overreacting a little. OK maybe a lot. Lost does not require a 'university degree' for anything, all it requires is that you pay attention. They WILL eventually gives answers to what's going on. We will EVENTUALLY find out what Smokey is.

One of the best parts of Lost is it's intricate nature. Answer one mystery, there are more under. It keeps you thinking, it's not just mindless entertainment, and the best thing about it is that you CAN devote lots of time to figuring things out but it's NOT required in the least...you can sit back and watch and get the answers in time.

And how does it move too slow? It's had a few slow periods but it's mostly about the characters in the first place. And I had NO problem with not finding out what the hatch was about until the second season. Personally I love the mystery element and if they introduced the hatch and we found out what was in it an episode later, that would be lame IMO.

Also it adds realism to the show, at least a little...the characters don't find things out right away, they're in the dark too. And in the show's timeframe, the hatch was opened two weeks after Locke and Boone discovered it.

Anyway, I'm sure now we'll get answers much more regularly since the writers know how many episodes they have to work with.
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Well if we are going to discuss it this way...
A lot of friends have told me they don't care when Lost returns because they have just given up trying to remember (from paying attention) all the points that have gone unanswered and just are not interested in watching it anymore. Their main point of contention was the writers decided to shift the focus of the show on a whole other group on the island. Quite a few comments were made that the writers should have concurrently ran a story about both groups during the first 3 seasons.
The slow pace of obtaining answers might be fine with some viewers but not with most. If it was a small impatient group complaining about the lack of answers then why did the writers and the network last season come out with how much longer the show will last and did a "please stick with us the answers will come...honestly" show? Sort of a big about-face from the big secrecy/confidentiallity agreements the actors had to follow or else the fit would hit the shan with the writers and network when the show first came out?
Don't interpret what I wrote as I hate the show it's quite the opposite I do like it. After I read what that fella wrote all I could think about was all the effort, time and research he put into his theory. Very academic report that could only be done with a lot of research something an individual would do who most likely holds a university degree. So I was being sarcastic...
The biggest issue I have with the show is that I have to constantly remind myself that they have only been on the island for 3 months. That's why I tend to agree with what a lot of my friends said that the writers should have concurrently run both groups stories together it might have helped as a reminder that the Oceanic crew have only been on the island for 3 months instead of what seems like 3 years.

prydain
12-27-2007, 06:56 AM
The reason they announced the show's end was because EVERYONE likes to know that a show like this WILL have an end, that the network won't drag it on forever, and such. The showrunners already said they were planning on leaving the show after a certain number of seasons if ABC wouldn't let them end the show and of course that's going to worry people.

Don't you think The X-Files could have benefited from such an announcement? Hell, from now on ***EVERY*** show with a complex mythology should be given the same treatment.

Edit:

Also, TT, even if people are getting impatient with wanting to know the answers, not many people have stopped watching the show. Going by season averages the show's lost a little less than 2 million viewers watching on TV over three seasons, and factoring in DVD rentals, DVD purchases, people who watch on ABC.com, people who download from iTunes and Unbox (I think it's on Unbox) and of course illegal downloaders the show maybe has lost a million or so but most TV viewers are casual watchers anyway, and of course there's no way everyone is going to be pleased with "Lost" no matter what direction it takes.

I think that even if people are complaining NOW that once all is said and done they'll appreciate the show a lot more, if you go back and rewatch it on DVD you can see answers aren't all the rare - it just seems that way waiting weeks at a time for new episodes - and even when you don't get straight answers you get hints and that's fine with MOST hardcore fans as it gives them a reason to get involved with the show.